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Buu saga Power levels in Kili metric system
Topic Started: Jun 5 2014, 07:14 PM (1,402 Views)
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Jun 5 2014, 09:40 PM
That's still way too small. If that was the case Goku wouldn't even be at his Freeza arc counterpart, in my opinion.
It was just an example, but that sort of system could potentially work.
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Jun 5 2014, 09:47 PM
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Jun 5 2014, 09:40 PM
That's still way too small. If that was the case Goku wouldn't even be at his Freeza arc counterpart, in my opinion.
It was just an example, but that sort of system could potentially work.
If someone could care to prove it, then I'd consider it. From a mathematical standpoint it seems way too difficult to prove, and I think it should just be left alone. Anyways, it's DEFINITELY not proof that the multiplier is ~4x, that's all I will say.
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Jun 5 2014, 08:15 PM
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Jun 5 2014, 08:06 PM
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Jun 5 2014, 08:02 PM
I'm not liking this, because the Kiri system is not linear.

The Daizenshuu claims that it takes ~200 Kiri to destroy a planet.

Saiyan Arc Vegeta >~ 200 Kiri.

Yet Base Goku was only 800 Kiri, which would make him only 4x stronger than Saiyan arc Vegeta.
Sometimes Daiz statements aren't very credible.

Like it saying M6 takes place in the CG wait and other stuff.
Nothing contradicts this though. Daizenshuu is good when it's not contradicted.
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The Daizenshuu claims that it takes ~200 Kiri to destroy a planet.

Saiyan Arc Vegeta >~ 200 Kiri.

You already proved that it is contradicted.
No. Nothing contradicts it because there is no proof that the system is linear. It can't be, because SSJ Goku had something like 3000 Kiri, when his base was only 800. Since there is no proof of a decreasing SSJ multiplier, it is conjecture.
And what if Goku was 8000 in his ssj But the meter only shows 3000 because it was the max digit it can show

It is like measuring the power of ssj3 goku with a scouter /LETS SAY IT WONT BLOW UP/

The scouter will show the maximum number it can show at max...for example 500 000 And I dont think goku only got 500 000 in his ssj3 form

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I don't remember the kiri meter debate from Pojo all that well, but I thought we'd come to the conclusion that the meter had maxed out, so Goku could've been at more than 3,000 but the meter wouldn't have displayed this information simply because it couldn't.

Though I think I remember on here, Clearin making the suggestion that the lines from the needle could be interpreted as the needle jumping up suddenly and kind of finding its way to a stop, which meant it was nowhere near being maxed out.
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Assuming we take Vegeta's "blow up the planet" during his battle with Goku on Earth as a legit claim rather than a taunt to take on his blast, we have the following:

800 kiri ~ Yakon ~ Goku >>>>>> Pui Pui >> Kaioshin (at least) >>>>> Frieza (100%) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frieza (530,000) >>>>> Vegeta > 200 kiri

That is, of course, if you truly believe Pui Pui is stronger than Kaioshin.

Gentlemen: That. Does. Not. Make. Sense.
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Yeah, I'm with the argument that Kakarrot's max SS was higher than the Kiri meter, because I find it hard to believe he was at his max when a few minutes later when Kakarrot Transformed again he was shown to be putting out more power... that just doesn't make sense saying he was at max.
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Jun 5 2014, 08:02 PM
I'm not liking this, because the Kiri system is not linear.

The Daizenshuu claims that it takes ~200 Kiri to destroy a planet.

Saiyan Arc Vegeta >~ 200 Kiri.

Yet Base Goku was only 800 Kiri, which would make him only 4x stronger than Saiyan arc Vegeta.
You don't have to always follow the daizenshuu. It's third party merchandise. We don't even know where they got the idea that 200 kili can destroy a planet from. For all we know the kili system is for high level people only and saiyan saga vegeta could be less than 1 kili
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The 200 Kiri thing comes from the anime.
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Jun 6 2014, 05:31 PM
Yeah, I'm with the argument that Kakarrot's max SS was higher than the Kiri meter, because I find it hard to believe he was at his max when a few minutes later when Kakarrot Transformed again he was shown to be putting out more power... that just doesn't make sense saying he was at max.
There is that, yes. This is another argument against he being at full power when his power was read.
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Another thing that also helps that argument is how MSS works and later on we see Goten and Trunks at the lookout Transform with an aura but then power up.
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Jun 6 2014, 06:51 PM
The 200 Kiri thing comes from the anime.
Exactly. It got it from dabura statement in the anime. This is why I have the ssj multiplier in the buu saga at around atleast 3.75x base power now. Goku went from about 800 kili minimum(he was around yakon's power) to 3000 kili
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